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Webb, Edward Charles

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Rank Sgt
Forename(s) Edward Charles
Surname Webb
Gender M
Age 21
Date of Death 20-02-1944
Next of Kin Son of Charles Henry Webb and Florence McDonald Webb (née McInnes), of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
WEBB EC 232

Aircraft Information

Aircraft Handley Page Halifax II
Serial Number JD271
Markings NA-M

Memorial Information

Burial/Memorial Country United Kingdom
Burial/Memorial Place Runnymede Memorial
Grave Reference Panel 256.
Epitaph

IBCC Memorial Information

Phase 2
Panel Number 261

Enlistment Information

Service Number R/180232
Service Royal Canadian Air Force
Group 6
Squadron 428 (Ghost)
Squadron Motto Usque ad finem (To the very end)
Trade Air Gunner
Country of Origin Canada

Other Memorials

Location Webb Peninsula, Manitoba; Within Calder Lake
Country Canada
Memorial Type Peninsula
Memorial Text
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Location Adjacent to fomer St. Georges Hotel, Teesside Airport, County Durham
Country United Kingdom
Memorial Type Memorial Stone with inscribed slate tablets
Memorial Text Dedicated to all who served on 428 (RCAF) Sqn at Middleton St. George during WWII, especially those who made the supreme sacrifice
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Miscellaneous Information

Edward was born on 15 May 1922 at Winnipeg, Manitoba. His father was born at Toronto, Ontario and he was a garage proprietor and his mother was born in Scotland. He had brothers Stanley and George and a sister Evelyn. His schooling was at Montcalm and Hugh John McDonald 1928-1937 (business courses) and then Daniel McIntyre 1938-1940 and Dominion Business College , 1940 - all in Winnipeg. For sport Edward enjoyed hockey, basketball, soccer, rugby and football which he played extensively during his school years. Edward worked as a mechanic for C. H. Webb at Webb Motors 1940-1941 and then as a Mail Clerk at Free Press 1941-1942. He then enlisted on 23 July 1942 at a Winnipeg.
After initial training he was posted to the U.K. and embarked from New York on 30 June 1943, arriving at 3PRC on July. He was then at 24 OTU on 20 July 1943, 1659 CU. 6 October 1943, and 428 Squadron on 8 November 1943. Sadly Edward was to lose his life on 20 February 1944 from 428 Squadron.

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Record of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/1850/4
Summary of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/1850/3

Fellow Servicemen

Please note that this list gives all the losses aboard the quoted aircraft and occasionally these may have occurred on an earlier date when the aircraft was not itself lost. Please check the dates of death carefully.

Gotham A W (Sgt)
Lister H S (F/S)
Sherratt C W (Sgt)
Smith G A (F/O)
Stewart N M (W/O)
Woolverton A W (F/O)

Last Operation Information

Start Date 19-02-1944
End Date 20-02-1944
Takeoff Station Middleton St. George
Day/Night Raid Night (22% moon)
Operation Leipzig. 823 aircraft, 78 losses (9.5%). Excluding early returners, the Halifax loss rate was 14.9%. As a result, Halifax Mks II and V were permanently withdrawn from service over Germany. The Kiel mine laying diversion was successful in drawing off fighters, but the German controllers only sent half of the available aircraft. As soon as the bomber stream crossed the Dutch coast they were confronted by the remaining half of the fighters and, moreover, the ones sent to Kiel were returned to join the fray. As a consequence, the fighters steadily picked off bombers all the way to this distant target. The winds were strongly than had been predicted and many bombers arrived early and had to orbit the target awaiting the Pathfinders, further increasing the likelihood of being picked off, either by flak or fighters. Leipzig was cloud covered and sky-marking had to be used. Early bombing appeared to be concentrated but later bombing less so. There was no local report nor a reconnaissance flight the following day. An American raid the following day then made it impossible to judge the effectiveness of the raid.
Reason for Loss Crashed into the Ijsselmeer off Andijk

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IBCC is delighted to introduce a unique facility to link the Losses Database to the relevant RAF Casualty Pack on the National Archives website. This project is the result of on-going collaboration between IBCC, the MOD Records Office and National Archives, Kew. This document describes what Casualty Packs are, when they were created, the process of making them available to the public and then goes on to describe the process by which you can view the contents of the packs. Casualty Packs (CPs) were created by the RAF whenever there was serious injury or loss of life associated with operational activity within the RAF. This includes operational flying losses, enemy action due to air raids, road accidents either on station or even off-station if they involved RAF vehicles. Deaths due to natural causes in service or accidents that did not involve RAF vehicles did not generally give rise to a CP.

CPs were originally given a unique reference number by the RAF. Each begins with the letter ‘P’ and is followed by six digits, then an oblique (forward slash) and the finally the year in which the incident took place- for example P396154/42.

The CPs are in the process of being made available to the general public as they are passed from the MOD Records Office, Portsmouth to National Archives, Kew. This process requires some rework to the files which is very time consuming, so the process of making them all available to National Archives will take several years. They are being made available in increasing date order.

Once CPs arrive at National Archives they are assigned a unique AIR81 number, so each CP has both a P-number and an AIR81 number. Both are searchable on the National Archives website under ‘Search the catalogue’ and both are included on the IBCC website.

The AIR81 reference on the IBCC website is a link to the file on the National Archives website. When you click on it, the relevant page will open in a new tab on your browser.

There is currently no plan to digitise AIR81 files, partly because they are fragile and partly because the information they contain can at times be sensitive, even harrowing, since they may contain exhumation reports and even photographs of corpses. Family members wishing to read the AIR81 files relating to their ancestors are advised to exercise caution and be guided by National Archives warnings where appropriate.

There are two means for accessing AIR81 files- to attend in person or to order a copy by post.

To attend in person, the attendee should first create a Reader’s Ticket. This can be done online by following this link: https://secure.nationalarchives.gov.uk/login/yourdetails. Then click on the AIR81 reference on the IBCC website and click Order in Advance. Enter your Reader’s Ticket number and state the date on which you intend to visit. National Archives will have the file ready for you when you arrive, saving you time. When you visit Kew, you must quote the Reader’s Ticket number and take along two forms of ID- one bearing your signature and one bearing your address. When you view the files, you are permitted to take photographs of each page, should you wish.

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