West, Norman Edward

Personal Information

Rank P/O
Forename(s) Norman Edward
Surname West
Gender M
Age 25
Date of Death 15-01-1944
Next of Kin Son of Albert John and Rosa Charlotte West, of Plymouth. Husband of Betty Audrey West, of Plymouth.
WEST NE

Aircraft Information

Aircraft Avro Lancaster III
Serial Number JB141
Markings UM-N2 Bei mir bist du schön'.

Memorial Information

Burial/Memorial Country Germany
Burial/Memorial Place Hanover War Cemetery
Grave Reference 6. F. 12.
Epitaph GOD'S GREATEST GIFT, REMEMBRANCE. BET, MAM, DAD AND FAMILY

IBCC Memorial Information

Phase 1
Panel Number 114

Enlistment Information

Service Number 170722
Service Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Group 1
Squadron 626
Squadron Motto To strive and not to yeild
Trade Pilot
Country of Origin United Kingdom

Other Memorials

Location Main Entrance, Wickenby Airfield, Lincolnshire
Country United Kingdom
Memorial Type Inscribed Memorial Stone, Metal Scupture, Info Board
Memorial Text This memorial commemorates the 1080 aircrew killed on operations with Nos (12B) and 626 squadrons whilst based at Royal Air Force Wickenby 1942-1945, the design and building of the memorial in 1981 was funded by subscription from members of the Wickenby R
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Miscellaneous Information

A poem, penned by Jean Sweet (1926-2018), was written to present at a friend's 18th birthday party in the expectation that the crew of JB141 would themselves be at the party. Tragically they were killed between her writing it and the party taking place, making the poem all the more poignant. (By way of interpretation, Dinger is Arthur Bell, Corney is Cyril Wheatstone, Joe is John Joseph Smith and Baron is George Upfold- for reasons unknown. The first line of the second verse should read 'Bei mir bist du schön' - a contemporary song popularised by the Andrew Sisters, although originally penned in Yiddish which the title in the poem perhaps alludes to as it is closer to the Yiddish spelling). "In tribute to a Gallant crew from a grateful British subject" Johnny and Norman, the Baron and Joe, Corney and Dinger and George Are out in a bomber on every Big Show Their way through the flak they will Forge Bei mir bist du shane (sic) Is the Lancaster's name It means what we think - you're the tops Norm will pilot you through John will aim his bombs true Until all this monstrosity stops If they're hit by the flak, There is no turning back They'll go on till the job has been done And with all guns ablaze They'll help put out that maze Of searchlights with the Baron's rear gun When wounded and torn, Looking slightly forlorn The bomber limps back with its crew George will care for and tend Every fresh battle scar Till once more she can fly in the blue Then with Dinger, Joe, Corney completing the crew The cream of our land is displayed We humble ourselves when we think of the courage And sacrifices you have made Well we're trying to help you by staying at home Looking after the things that you love And we'll still be waiting when you cease to roam In those treacherous skies high above.

Commonwealth War Graves Commission

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Fellow Servicemen

Please note that this list gives all the losses aboard the quoted aircraft and occasionally these may have occurred on an earlier date when the aircraft was not itself lost. Please check the dates of death carefully.

Last Operation Information

Start Date 14-01-1944
End Date 15-01-1944
Takeoff Station Wickenby
Day/Night Raid Night (82% moon)
Operation Braunschweig
Reason for Loss Crashed near Barssun, south of Bremen
 
 
 
 

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