Telfer, Robert Lloyd Died

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Personal Information

Rank W/O
Forename(s) Robert Lloyd
Surname Telfer
Gender M
Age 26
Date of Death 28-08-1942
Next of Kin Son of Robert Adam Telfer and Alice Olivia Telfer (née Paul), of Humboldt, Saskatchewan, Canada. Husband of Marvel Joyce Telfer (née Baker), whom he married on 26 December 1940. Father of Robert Telfer.
TELFER RL

Aircraft Information

Aircraft Handley Page Halifax II
Serial Number BB204
Markings PM-

Memorial Information

Burial/Memorial Country Belgium
Burial/Memorial Place Gosseliès Communal Cemetery
Grave Reference Row 1. Coll. grave 16-17.

IBCC Memorial Information

Map
Directions to panel 105
TELFER RL

Location

Row -
Panel 105
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Directions From the Chadwick Centre, take the central path towards The Spire.

Phase 1
Panel Number 105

Enlistment Information

Service Number R/62467
Service Royal Canadian Air Force
Group 1
Squadron 103
Squadron Motto Noli me tangere (Touch me not)
Trade Pilot
Country of Origin Canada

Other Memorials

Location Telfer Lake, Saskatchewan
Country Canada
Memorial Type Lake
Memorial Text
Location All Saints Church, Elsham, Lincolnshire
Country United Kingdom
Memorial Type Inscribed Stone Tablet
Memorial Text Dedicated to all who served at RAF Elsham Wolds on 103 7 576 Squadrons 1941-45
Location Anglian Water Treatment Works, Elsham Wolds, Lincolnshire
Country United Kingdom
Memorial Type Inscribed Stone Pillar & Plaques
Memorial Text Pillar : RAF Elsham Wolds, 1941-1945, For those who made the great sacrifice. Plaque :This tree is dedicated to all those who served with 103 Squadron Royal Air Force. Plaque : RAF Elsham Wolds, Opened in Summer 1941 as a bomber station in No1 group, it was the home of No103 Squadron and from Elsham Wolds until 1945 Wellington, Halifax and Lancaster aircraft of No 103 and other squadrons flew on bombing missions against targets in Germany and occupied Europe.
Location In front of the mess esplanade, Mailly-le-Camp, 10 - Aube Prefecture
Country France
Memorial Type Stone memorial sculpture, inscribed marble tablets and inscribed metal plaque
Memorial Text En souvenir des heros de la RAF. Qui ont participe au bombardment du camp de Mailly. Unites de la RAF engagees dans le raid sur Mailly-le-Camp, la nuit du 3 au 4 May 1944. N° 9-12-44-49-50-57 61-83-97-100-101 Special Duties Flight-103-105-106-166- 169-192-207-460 (RAAF)-463 (RAAF)-467 (RAAF)-550-576-617- 619-625-626-627-641
Translation "In memory of the RAF heroes who took part in the bombing of Mailly Camp. RAF units engaged in the raid on Mailly-le-Camp, the night of 3-4 May 1944. Squadrons that took part: N° 9-12-44-49-50-57 61-83-97-100-101 Special Duties Flight-103-105-106-166- 169-192-207-460 (RAAF)-463 (RAAF)-467 (RAAF)-550-576-617-619-625-626-627-641"
Location Bawtry Hall, Bawtry, South Yorkshire
Country United Kingdom
Memorial Type Inscribed Marble Tablet
Memorial Text In memory of those who did not return 1939 - 1945

Miscellaneous Information

Robert was born on 25 October 1915 at Humboldt, Saskatchewan. His father was born at Ailsa Craig, Ontario and was a Newspaper Proprietor and his mother was born at Napanee, Ontario. She was a trained opera singer and pianist. He had an older brother Walter and a younger sister Muriel. The schools he attended were Humboldt Public 1920-1925, Humboldt High school and Central Collegiate Institute 1929-1935. He also attended McMaster university between 1933-1934. Between 1935-1936 Robert was working as a clerk in a Drugstore. Between 1937 and 1938 he opened his own drugstore and was shown as the owner 1938-1940. His hobby was photography and sport interests were skating, skiing, tennis, and golf. Robert married Marvel Joyce Baker on 26 December 1940 and they later had a son, Robert, whom he was sadly never to see.
He enlisted on 12 September 1940. He arrived in UK on 20 April 1941 and went on to 23 OTU 26 April 1941 and 103 Squadron on 22 June 1941.

The National Archives

Record of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/814/16
Summary of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/814/16

Fellow Servicemen

Please note that this list gives all the losses aboard the quoted aircraft and occasionally these may have occurred on an earlier date when the aircraft was not itself lost. Please check the dates of death carefully.

Name Outcome
Bingham R A (P/O) Died
Patch J (Sgt) Died
Webster S A (Sgt) Died

Last Operation Information

Start Date 28-08-1942
End Date 29-08-1942
Takeoff Station Elsham Wolds
Day/Night Raid Night (90% moon)
Operation Saarbrucken
Reason for Aircraft Loss Attacked by a night-fighter at 12000' over Oostende and set on fire. Crashed SW of Dinant, Belgium
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