Bates, John Alec
Personal Information
Rank | Sgt |
Forename(s) | John Alec |
Surname | Bates |
Gender | M |
Age | 22 |
Date of Death | 17-04-1943 |
Next of Kin | Son of Bernard Arthur and Eleanor Rosina Bates, of Warrington, Lancashire. |
Aircraft Information
Aircraft | Avro Lancaster III |
Serial Number | ED800 |
Markings | VN-U |
Memorial Information
Burial/Memorial Country | United Kingdom |
Burial/Memorial Place | Runnymede Memorial |
Grave Reference | Panel 142. |
Epitaph |
IBCC Memorial Information
Phase | 1 |
Panel Number | 7 |
Enlistment Information
Service Number | 1078000 |
Service | Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve |
Group | 5 |
Squadron | 50 |
Squadron Motto | Sic fidem servamus (Thus we keep faith) |
Trade | Wireless Operator |
Country of Origin | United Kingdom |
Other Memorials
Location | Bois de Rosette - Chemin des Sept Sergents, Yves-Gomazee, Namur Province |
Country | Belgium |
Memorial Type | Stone memorial, inscribed metal plaque & metal sculpture |
Memorial Text |
Ici repose l'equipage du Lancaster ED 800 du 50 Squadron englouti a get endroit la nuit du 17 avril 1943
Translation "Here lays Lancaster ED800 crew members of 50 Sqn, crashed here on 17 April 1943" |
Location | Birchwood Way, Birchwood Estate, Lincoln, Lincolnshire |
Country | United Kingdom |
Memorial Type | Brick Memorial & Inscribed Marble Obolisk |
Memorial Text | To the memory of the Air Crews and Ground Staff who gave their lives whilst serving with No 50 Squadron and No 61 Squadron, 5 group, Bomber Command The Royal Air Force 2nd World War 1939 to 1945. No 50 Squadron "From defence to attack" Operated from Waddi |
Location | Memorial Gardens, Skellingthorpe, Lincolnshire |
Country | United Kingdom |
Memorial Type | Brick Memorial with Inscribed Marble Stone |
Memorial Text | Royal Air Force Skellingthorpe. My brief sweet life is over, My eyes no longer see, No Christmas Trees, No summer walks, No pretty girls for me, I've got the chop - I've had it, My nightly ops are done, Yet in another 100 years I'll still be twenty one. R |
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
The National Archives
Record of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/487/32 |
Summary of Events (Operational Record Book) AIR 27/487/31 |
Fellow Servicemen
Please note that this list gives all the losses aboard the quoted aircraft and occasionally these may have occurred on an earlier date when the aircraft was not itself lost. Please check the dates of death carefully.
Last Operation Information
Start Date | 16-04-1943 |
End Date | 17-04-1943 |
Takeoff Station | Skellingthorpe |
Day/Night Raid | Night (87% moon) |
Operation | Pilsen (Skoda factory) |
Reason for Loss | Shot down by a night-fighter (Hptm Wilhelm Herget, Stab I./NJG4) Crashing 0400 into marshy ground and sinking into old mine galleries near Yves-Gomezee (Namur), 6Km NNW of Philippeville, Belgium. All attempts by the authorities to recover the crew failed and their names are perpetuated by the Runnymede memorial. |